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PG:

If you listen to News and /or Talk Shows, this week you are going to hear all kinds of predictions about the coming year. I mean it's something that everybody does, it's the obvious thing, right? And the print medium, Newsweek Magazine for example have a special double issue related to the predictions for 1997. But how about some predictions for the year 2012? Well, that is one thing people say that Petrene Soames can do: Progression into the future. H. G. Well, the author of the Time Machine, would be proud. Petrene Soames from the UK is considered to be one of the world top psychics. And as a London Newspaper story goes, and I quote: "PSYCHICS, love'em or hate'em, believe or disbelieve, there's no denying that everyone is fascinated by these mystic gurus. And after you've met Petrene, you may even be convinced about their powers." And I agree because I had a very interesting conversation with Petrene on Saturday that was very impressive. I don't normally have psychics on this program, but Petrene Soames is in a class all by herself. Maybe some of you have seen her web page on the Internet. Ladies and Gentlemen let's welcome to the Paul Gonzalez show Petrene Soames... Hello there Petrene!

PS:

Hi, good morning Paul how are you?

PG:

You are the psychic, you know I am doing fine today... So Petrene, I have no problem with saying that the time I spent with you on the phone on Saturday to say the least was mind boggling. You were right on the money with items you would have no way of knowing about. And that brings me to the big question: Why is it Psychics, and there are so many on TV are not very believed that much? You are in a different category I mentioned you are known as one of the top psychics. What's the difference between a psychic and a so called reader?

PS:

There is actually quiet a lot of difference. First of all I am involved in many, many different areas of the paranormal, I just don't do readings and give consultations. Also I don't use any kind of medium, I don't use cards or crystals, or astrology, numerology. I don't use sciences, I basically work from pure direct psychic ability, it could be the vibration of your voice, it could be something you have written, a photograph of you. In fact I just need the name of somebody and I can tune into them. Obviously I've been involved for quiet a while, the last 20 years, and I have a father and grand mother who were also psychics, so basically I spent quiet a lot of time on it developing these abilities.

PG:

What about the people who use Tarot Cards, things of that nature? What do they use those for?

PS:

It's all a matter basically of degrees. I am certainly not putting down people that do use Tarot cards. You have some very good readers. Tarot Cards, crystal balls, and other mediums, are used as a focus. They are a way for the person to tune in, clear their mind, focus on one particular point, and then let the mind go so that they can go into the future, into other realities. Now obviously you also have the person who is literally doing no more then reading cards, perhaps using a little bit of psychology, body language, observation.


REGRESSION - PROGRESSION - DIGRESSION

PG:

This is a show for people who want something different, in many cases people listen to the show who don't normally listen to talk shows. We do the politics, and stuff that everybody else does, but a lot more. We bring you a lot of information you can use in your daily life, lot of news about alternative health matters, and today we are talking to a lady but it's harder to describe what she does, because she does many things, her name is Petrene Soames, and she received a lot of press around the world for some of the incredible things she does, and one of the areas that you receive a lot of press about is the stepping back in time and stepping forward into the future. Tell me a little bit about that Petrene.

PS:

First of all these are two different experiences and therapies. One of them is called "Regression", and this covers past time and lives. And the other one is called "Progression", which is future time and lives, and incidentally I am this month featured in the International Paranormal Magazine Fate, and you can read about my work with progression. Many people by now have probably heard of past life Regression, when you go back and see some of the people that you have been. Apart from doing it on a purely level of interest, a lot of people have traumas, blocks, things that they need to clear from past time and lives, and obviously you can go back hours, days, months, years, the options are endless. Now with Progression, going forward in time, I am one of the few people who are working successfully with this right now. The big miss conception is that the client is hypnotized. The client is not hypnotized at all, it is just a very, very deeply relaxed state. Obviously you can see the amazing advantages, I have people who come along who might have a very important meeting, who want to go forward a few days see how things turn out and then they can actually change and improve the situation, right up to people who go many, many hundreds of years ahead in time. I was actually the first psychic filmed on European National Television twice taking clients into the future, their were very enjoyable experiences. And this next coming year you are all going to be reading a lot more about the Progression experience. This is very exciting but it's not really new. Adepts and masters have always been time travellers. It's just a matter of people becoming more aware of the possibilities and the fact that they can do this.

PG:

Well you know, science tries to enhance this possibility. When you think of some of the things that Einstein said, and some of the theories about space and time. This doesn't really go that far away from scientific theory maintain that time is all happening at once.

PS:

I couldn't agree more, this is my absolutely experience and knowledge. As far as I am concerned, there absolutely is no such thing as time. It is merely something which we are all agreed on. We all do have our own time, we all vibrate in different ways, at different speeds. But if you take away the time thing, of course you can go backwards and forwards. And even the backwards and forwards in not really a reality, I actually work with something called "Digression", which is going into parallel worlds, realities, consciousness, and universes, and this, I feel, is a lot more how things actually are.

PG:

Well there again, there is a somewhat scientific book written about the possibility of parallel worlds. Of course you already have been there, right?

PS:

I certainly have. This is something I work with a great deal, and obviously as a psychic, psychics go into many different worlds and dimensions, so the more involved you are, the more experienced you are, the more is opened up and you have explored.

PG:

A lot of people of course, and reasonably also, are very skeptical about stuff like this. But lot of these same people have had experiences where they have dreamed something, and that something happened the next day or maybe a week later.

PS:

Isn't that great? This is very true. First of all people dreaming things in the future, this basically is time traveling. If I said to you: Where are you at this moment? And if you were being aware, and looking a little bit closely, you'd probably realize, well, I am sitting here in the studio recording, but I am also in incidents that happened last week, or something I am looking forward to next year. This is just a very simple explanation and example. With some thoughts we can all sit down and trace all the different realities and places we are in at the same time and moment.


PREDICTIONS

PG:

Petrene, we mentioned at the top of the show that you made some predictions for the turn of the millennium, and you also made some predictions for a relatively short time. I understand of some sort on the radio - I believe it was in Las Vegas - and it was not that long after that that there were headlines in the paper, or at least stories in the paper, about you predicted.

PS:

That is certainly true, that is something I did. On that particular occasion I was in Las Vegas, I was on the Radio, and just out of the blue they asked me, they had a brand new building, the Stratosphere, it had just been opened the night before. They asked me "What do you have to say about this? What do you feel?" I just tuned in for a moment and I actually felt that in a very short time it would be closed for few days, because there were minor technical problems, things that would have to be fixed before everything continued. And I got called, that was great, and that actually came around within two weeks. So people were quite excited about it.

PG:

And when people tell you, like I did over the weekend when we spoke, when people tell you: "I can't believe this! This is so incredible!" It doesn't seem to impress you that much because you are used to this, aren't you?

PS:

It is always nice to get positive feedback. But frankly I expect what I say to be so, because I am really careful about what I do say.

PG:

You've run into a lot of skeptics who interviewed you for print, and for radio and TV, and some of these people who were very skeptical - after they talked with you - changed their mind.

PS:

That's true and that's always nice. At the end of the day, skepticism is generally based on fear. And when you are saying you don't believe in me, you are actually also saying that you don't believe in you.

PG:

I see. 2012, I've been reading that a date that you consider to be important.

PS:

The story on that was, in one of my progression I had a young man who was quite skeptical of the whole thing himself. He had a couple of readings and was impressed, so he decided to travel forward with the progression himself. He went forward to that date and there was even a day and a month, and he actually looked at the newspaper headlines, and he saw on that day reports of UFOs, Aliens landing, all that kind of things. So that was very exciting. I must also mention that I work with a whole cross section of people and I actually had other people report similar experiences, people who have never considered those possibilities before, so that is an interesting thought. I actually have quite a lot to say on this whole millennium thing, the whole shift which is going to happen. It's not as clear cut as perhaps it seems. I think that what we are talking about here is a reality which actually can happen. But the shift can happen within yourself at any time. You don't really have to wait for that time. I mean of course Alien, UFOs exist, always have been around and here. Basically many, many more people are opening up that area of their psyche, their reality, so we are getting lot more reports.


REBIRTHING

PG:

One of the things I want to bring up before we run out of time, a lot of folk believe that talking to somebody like you is fun - and it is - entertaining, whatever, we see all the ads on TV... But there is more to it, because what I understand that you do is to help people deal with some of their life problems. They may be ill and there is may be something in the inside that is causing that illness.

PS:

I do something called Rebirthing. You can literally change your life. We've all had awful incidences along the way, negative childhood, bad relationships. All these feelings - anger, trauma, pain - people bury them, they carry on, they cope with them , but they don't clear them. I can clear that with the Rebirthing, we can use healing, I teach people to develop their own self healing and their psychic abilities. At the end of the day, I am working beyond holistic. We don't really ever need to be ill. It's a matter of clearing yourself, and then never become ill again. There is not a drug that you need. We really are capable of taking care of ourselves. The mind is the answer.

PG:

This goes into what the medical people call "psychosomatic illness". Would you say that most of the pain and aches have some kind of inner root?

PS:

Of course they do. Every single illness goes back to somewhere. What I do is tune into what it is really about, where it goes back to. Then we deal with it on that level. You also have to realize that you can heal yourself, I can heal anyone as long as they are ready to let go of that. We like to hold on to illness, whether we realize it or not. It definitely keeps us here, keeps us grounded. We need something else to fill that space. JOY is a great alternative.

PG:

I notice a lot of people seem to get something out of being ill, and I don't mean that in a mean way. People who are ill get attention, and maybe that's what they really want. Attention?

PS:

There are many, many different aspects to this and yet at the same time it is simple. It really is a matter of realizing that you are not the created, you are the creator. This is your movie, so why are you making yourself a negative one?

PG:

Do people have a natural born talent [psychic abilities] ?

PS:

I think that with some people, it's more on the surface than others. I come from a family of psychics, but I don't really think that it makes me any different to anyone else. I made a commitment that this was who I am and what I do, and I've worked very hard at it and I am very good at it. But it is here for everybody. It certainly needs some belief and knowledge in and of yourself.

PG:

I am looking at a story from the South London Press about one of your past life Regression. Tell me about one of these things. You've actually taken somebody to a past life and this person has benefited by it. Give me an example of that.


WAR ON DEATH

PS:

I could probably think of hundreds of examples. But one of the things I do with past life Regression is - and you can do this with future time obviously - I actually take people to their death, some of the deaths that they had or the death that they are going to have. This actually is not a frightening thing at all, because death is not solid, even though we all perceive it to be. I had a woman who constantly could not breathe, had panic attacks. I took her back to her previous death where she had had a lot of problems letting go. When we went though that and she painlessly, effortlessly transcended into another dimension, another life experience, she then actually was fine in this life, she no longer had her breathing problem, no longer had the panic attacks or a fear of death.
While I am on that subject, I am actually going to be shortly in many different magazines. I am sending out an invitation: I am looking for 50 people who could get to this area, who would like - free of charge - to experience their death, to go through that experience, what it's all about, and then be prepared to speak about it afterwards. We are going to be filming that, and perhaps that will to be made into a TV program. This is one of the things I am going to be involved in. I am calling it "War on Death". I am not just saying that life goes on, I am saying on mass we are going to prove this reality, and wipe out this word once for all.

PG:

I told you our guest was unusual...

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